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Topic 2         Wed Jan 27, 1988
AIRCRAFT [Browe]             (Forwarded) 
Sub: 1764 upgrade to 512k                   

How can I upgrade my 1764 to 512k?
8 message(s) total.
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Category 11,  Topic 2
Message 1         Mon Oct 24, 1988
L.AMMONS                     (Forwarded) 
 
<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
Can anyone tell me how to upgrade my 1764? I see where you put the additional
8 drams. Is that all you have to do?

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Message 2         Tue Oct 25, 1988
D.RAY1                       (Forwarded) 
 
      There is a text file here on GEnie that details how to upgrade your 1764
      to 512k.  It is file # 4339 library 1.  there is also a ramtest program
      in the same library to test your newly upgraded REU, it is file #4374.
      both files were uploaded by TBEREMAN.

      I have done a 1764 upgrade and it is not that hard.  You need to have
      some skill using a soldering iron.
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Message 3         Tue Oct 25, 1988
COLOR64BBS [Greg Pfountz]    (Forwarded) 
 
Yes, you just add the 8 extra ram chips - piece of cake.  It is recommended
that you actually solder in sockets, then plug the chips into the sockets -
less chance of blowing a chip by a novice with the soldering iron.  Ram dos is
smart enough to see the extra ram and will automatically show you the 2011
blocks free.
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Message 4         Thu Mar 23, 1989
C128.CPM [Bill]              at 07:59 EST
 
Software Support International is selling 1764's that have been crammed with
chips, making it a 512K REU for $199.95.  They also will upgrade your 1764 to
512K for $75.00.
  Thank you, H.Herman1 (Howie) for this info!
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Message 5         Thu Mar 23, 1989
D.RAY1 [Dale]                at 18:46 EST
 
Bill, If I remember right the price on that 1764 upgrade is $119.  Also, SSI
is keeping the heavy duty power packs that come with the 1764s and selling
them seperately. I think the ad I saw said $24.95.
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Message 7         Fri Mar 24, 1989
THX1138                      at 03:03 EST
 
Yes I just ordered the 512k 1764 and they said they were shipping  Friday
(today).  The price is $199 for the 512k 1764(less heavy duty C64 power
supply) and $124.95 to upgrade your own 1764.  It is a   little pricy, but
considering that the 1750's are not being produced it is the only game in
town. I let you know how the 512k 1764 turns out when I receive it next week
(I hope).

Software support 800 356-1179 or 206 695-9648 to order, the later number is a
twenty four hour a day, order only no info, line.  Their hours are 9-5 PST.
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Message 8         Fri Mar 24, 1989
C128.CPM [Bill]              at 15:51 EST
 
Dale and THX are correct.  199.95 for the 512K 1764, and 124.95 for updating
your 1764!  Address info:
     Software Support
     2700 NE Andresen
     Vancouver, WA 98661
     1-800-356-1179


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Topic 17        Sun Apr 05, 1987
MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-]        at 19:31 EDT
Sub: 1764 RAM EXPANDER and RAMDISK          

Now that the 1764 RAM Expander is available, a TOPic devoted to discussion
about it seems warranted.
14 message(s) total.
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 1         Sun Apr 05, 1987
MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-]        at 19:56 EDT
 
At long last, the 1764 RAM Expander is available.  If the past problems with
<RETURN>, <S>croll, <Q>uit ?s
the 1700/1764 are any indicator, the 1764's might be hard to find and in short
supply at first.  Some stores that *do* have them are selling them for $159.95
(or thereabouts).  That seems about right for 256K, about midway between the
1700 (128K) and 1750 (512K).  As was promised, the 1764 comes with a large
(2.5 amp) power supply (vented and apparently repairable), and a disk
containing the RAMDISK program, FILE COPIER, DOS WEDGE, DEVICE CHANGER, RAM
UNIT TEST program, two DEMOS, and a GEOS WEDGE.  The RAMDISK program can be
used with the 1764, 1700, or 1750, and should be available here in the
*FlagShip* libraries as soon as our Utilities SySop has a chance to
download/test it.

The RAMDISK emulates a disk drive, in that it is assigned a device number and
you can RENAME, COPY, SCRATCH, NEW, INIT, VALIDATE, POINTER (for REL files),
UJ, UJ0, UI, U0>CHR$(n) (where n=unit number).  DOS commands *not* supported
include: B-R, B-W, B-A, B-F, B-P, M-R, M-W, and M-E. It does support wild
cards, SAVE with REPLACE, PRG/SEQ/REL/USR filetypes.

The DOS interface to the KERNAL is through the standard indirection vectors
for the following Kernal Calls: OPEN CLOSE CHKIN BASIN BSOUT GETIN LOAD SAVE
INMI.

The DOS INTERFACE BLOCK may be installed on almost any page in the system,
provided it is *not* under any ROM's.  The default is the page starting at
$CF00 (207) during initialization, but you are given an option to change this.


First impressions: WUNNERFUL!  Naturally, many disk directory utilities such
as DIR ASSIST and DIR MANAGER have problems dealing with the RAMDISK, but most
programs just love their new 'home'.  ARC runs *from* the RAM well, but will
access the 1541 as drive 8 instead of the RAMDISK as drive 8.  Haven't had
much time to fool with the thing yet, so I'll leave it at that.  (Thanx to THE
DAILY EXCHANGE and ILLUSIONS BBS!)

-=:[ Mike ]:=-
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 2         Sun Apr 05, 1987
CHARRINGTON [Courtney]       at 18:56 PDT
 
Okay...it works with the 1750/1751. Wonderful. But (!) will in work in 128
mode. Bet not. So us 128 owners still have to wait for support on our machine.
*sigh* Courtney
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Message 3         Mon Apr 06, 1987
GBARRETT [VISION100]         at 21:22 CDT
 
Court, if I remember correctly (correct me if I'm wrong fellows...), the ONLY
difference between the 1700/1750 and the 1764 is the current load and the new
power supply.  Memory management is the same in all of them, far as I know. 
Only thing...I believe the RAMDISK program IS 64-specific, so we 128ers have
to wait...again...

-GaryB
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 4         Tue Apr 07, 1987
SPARROW.J                    at 00:39 EDT
 
Gang, I asked Fred about releasing the C-128 version of the R-disk software
again today, and again we are all still waiting for final approval from his
bosses.  I sware to you I am running up a huge long distance phone bill trying
to persuade CBM to release this thing!

--Sparrow James
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 5         Tue Apr 07, 1987
MICHAEL.M [-:SysOp:-]        at 00:39 EDT
 
Just confirming that the RAMDISK program *is* 64-specific. (How long has the
1700/1750 been out???  GRR!)
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 6         Tue Apr 07, 1987
CHARRINGTON [Courtney]       at 06:20 PDT
 
The RAMDISK will run on my 1750 *in 64 mode* which is a step in the right
direction. I finished my taxes last night after making it device 8 and loading
all the files into it. And yes...the file copy program is slow as hell (can't
use a fast copy)...but the tax program when lickity-split after that.  I can
imagine what the 1750/51 would do in 128 mode. And Sparrow--thanks for the
efforts! I know they will pay off sometime down the road. Courtney
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Category 11,  Topic 17
Message 9         Tue Apr 21, 1987
CHUCK.WAGON                  at 22:59 PDT
 
 dsc
     Well, I got a chance to down load this little goody and run it  through
its paces and here's what I found. 1. A System reset (using the reset button
as implemented on the 128)
   will cause a loss of all RAM-Disk memory. This is a disapointment 
   as those of us who have utilized the 17xx CP/M mode  RAM Disk 
   capabilities have come to appreicieate.  Also as most C=64 
   Commercial programs will not allow the user to reset or return
   to System this will greatly reduce the use of storing some programs 
   in the expander. 2. On the Plus side it was a pleaseure to load a whole
disk full of my 
   favorite SID Player Tunes and not have to wait for those timley  
   pauses  between songs. However, though SID Player and Multi-Sid
   Player worked without a glitch, I was not able to get Sid Pic 2.5
   to work. The program was not able to read any MUS programs on the
   RAM-Disk even though I had reset the RAM-Disk DU # to Unit 8. I
   did list the  Sid Pic Program to see if I could figure out a way
   to make it run but was unsuccessful. Any help in this area would
   be appreciated.

3. I was able to load Slam Ball into the RD (RD = RAM-Disk) an run it 
   but couldn't reset the sytem as noted above so tryng to store a bunch 
   of your favorite games may be a problem. 4. A word of  advise, As Courtney
commented or inferred earlier, I
   suggest that you initiate the RD as unit #15 or any other unit# 
   other than 8, copy your programs with the file copy program and then 
   change your physical drive (1541, 1571, or what ever youre using) 
   to #9 and reset the RD to unit #8. This is because most basic
   programs that load ML programs usualy make there call for the
   ML programs on DU #8 if you don't reset the RD Drive Unit # to 
   #8 You will Crash the System or get a Device Not Present Error.
   The Alternative of course is to re-write the basic portion of the
   program if possible to make the call to the desired Unit#. Its
   a shame you can't Log In a drive like you can in CP/M and MSDOS
   Operating Systems. 
   Overall  I am sure that many users will find that the 1764
   will give them a whole new dimension of use and power that the
   original designers of the C-64 never imagined. I have No doubt 
   that Software Taking full advantage of this new tool will follow 
   much quicker as the base of In...
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